Multipurpose/Utility Drone

This thread will be to organize discussion on the concept of a multipurpose multirotor utility drone that could accept multiple payloads to accomplish different missions.

I believe that this is a project that fits Arrow for several reasons.

A cheaper BOM will allow Arrow to more quickly build the same design across many different workshops and the lower safety standard we’ll have by avoiding manned flight will allow us to move more quickly on each iteration. Additionally, we should have a faster path to actually selling this product to customers with this drone vs Feather. This will allow Arrow to experiment with revenue flows back into the DAO treasury and it will give us a financial flow that we can improve through iteration.

The more affordable design, combined with a modular attachment system, is intended to allow us to better focus on growing Arrow’s community and improving our open collaboration culture. If we build a robust base drone, our community may become a natural gathering point for anyone looking to perform utility work with a drone. Ideally, we could see a growing catalog of community-built attachments for this drone.

In order to make our best attempt at setting requirements for the base drone, we can crowdsource some of our ideas for attachments and missions of the drone. Please contribute any ideas you have! If relevant, include things like:

  • Accessory estimated weight
  • Mounting location on the drone
  • Integration requirements (power, data, etc)
  • Flight time required for the mission
  • Various mission details (range, altitude, special considerations)

Additionally, please share any general requirements that you think may be worth considering for the drone.

We can be quick with this process and not let perfect be the enemy of progress. Using the data we gather here, we can collectively set and freeze requirements for our first prototype next week and get to work.

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  • General / Standardized connector (Amass, JST, …)
  • Controll signal requirement (Analog or Digital)
  • Hazard protection (Splash, Dust, Chemical, Shock, Heat)
  • Dimension (Compact, Oversized, Direction)
  • Maintainability (Tool-required, Quick release…)
  • Mount point (Top, Low, Side, Arms)
  • Interchangeable pylon system

The pylon / adapter itself should also consider as an individual equipment (Example) :


Need more idea

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For the aircraft layout, I recommend using an 8-rotor aircraft which the octocopter as our general platform due to those positive reasons:

  • Almost impossible to crash while single even two thruster failure
  • Ultra-high stability and smooth handling
  • Isotropic maneuverability
  • Low vibration interference
  • Wide takeoff weight range
  • Large available space on fuselage
  • 30~40% cheaper cost of propulsion terminal
  • No power efficiency lost
  • Easy to upgrade and iterate

Also negatives:

  • Huge airframe size comparing to other layout within same design load
  • Need longer landing gear for safety
  • Low center of gravity
  • Almost impossible to integrate folding arms and propellers

The above experiences are based on my flight experience. We need to do some further calculations by using those website:

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A few impressions for attachments/missions:

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In terms of Interface and Controls, I think a UX with a Tablet + Joystick would be sensible way to go.

We could use a device like this:

This way we can combine both the high level mission planning and low level override control in the same compact unit.

If we will be using a pixhawk or pixhawk compatible flight stack, then the tablet can access Q ground control or Mission planner (droid planner) directly via their android apps. No need for any more UI dev

The customer could also then use their own IOS or android devices meaning reduced cost.

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From the motor size it could go into the direction of around 10kg max thrust per motor.
This would be some options:
Mad Motor 6215 IPE:
https://mad-motor.com/products/mad-components-6215-ipe-waterproof-brushless-motor-for-drone-sprayer-fora-griculture?VariantsId=10374

Freerchobby MP 8318: https://www.freerchobby.cc/products/mp-8318-2870w-brushless-motor-for-agricultural-uav-drone

or: https://www.freerchobby.cc/products/mp-8318-2870w-brushless-motor-for-agricultural-uav-drone-%E7%9A%84%E5%89%AF%E6%9C%AC

T-Motor U8II PRO: https://uav-en.tmotor.com/html/2022/u_0311/786.html

These motors are:

  • Around 100$ per motor
  • 300 - 500g heavy
  • For 12S

That means the battery would be 12-14S.

Other than that I think the battery should be easily swappable and not mounted with screws. Later we can add a designated charging station.

Initial Ideas for fire fighting drone:

  • Fire fighting drone System
    • Fire retardant deployment - could be most effective and needed near populated areas, (cost of drones more justified due to potential loss of life and economic impact of fire) deployed in a swarm to contain a fire as quickly as possible.

    • Water dropping for fire suppression - Could be strategically placed near reservoirs or other large bodies of water with pre planned water (scooping?) positions for continuous work without interruption. Small crews could be manning battery replacement landing zones

    • Fire reconnaissance/tracking

    • Emergency evacuation announcements - live updates of evacuation routes that are safe and which ones are not via app or emergency notifications

    • Larger aircraft positioning and guidance

    • Delivery of first aid, equipment, for hard to reach personnel

    • Marking potential fire lines, tree/brush removal for on ground personnel

    • Search and rescue assistance - delivery of first aid/food and water to those in need

    • Initial costs of this system would be higher than traditional fire fighting methods, but would pay off in the long term. - The more these systems are developed the cheaper they will be in theory

    • Drones are much safer, cheaper, and can reach more difficult areas than traditional aircraft such as tankers or helicopters

    • Drones are more precise than tankers and multiple can be used together to coordinate more precise containment and help direct fires more effectively

*Will add more as I conduct more research :slight_smile:

Concerns brought up during Engineering call:

-Larger drones might not be as effective as a smaller drone swarm: This is a possibility but I will have to read more into it.

-Larger aircraft such as helicopters and tankers are more effective: They are more effective for longer distances and carrying capacity, but for rapid response, precise movements, coordination, they are potentially more effective.

-Larger drones are more expensive to maintain than smaller ones: I would want to explore if larger drones are more expensive to maintain than helicopters, this would potentially make the case for replacing them for the purposes they serve in fire fighting.

Here’s a list of potential attachment ideas/missions that I’ve had in mind:

  • Agricultural herbicide dispenser. Brushbullet seems like an interesting product that neatly fits the application we have and they already have a dispenser that could be mounted. In West TX, there is a need for using targeted herbicide to help with native grassland restoration efforts, however we may have ethical/ecological concerns about herbicide dispensing for other purposes. This could be mounted underneath or on the side, however it likely needs to be loaded from the top. Does not require high power or data beyond a relay.

  • Extra battery attachment. Could be used to increase endurance when the primary attachment is a lower weight.

  • Communications relay. Could be used for repeating radio signals in disaster response areas without line of sight or for an instant cell tower after a natural disaster.

  • Cargo box. Simple enclosed box to transport small bits of cargo.

  • Tree trimming. Benjamin mentioned this originally - a small chainsaw could be used in combination with a robot arm to trim trees.

  • Tethered ground power. We could send power up from a ground unit for applications when high endurance is required, but it doesn’t need to fly any distance. Pairs well with communications relay and flood light attachments.Could partially replace the battery.

  • Loudspeaker.

  • Computer Vision/ML computer for dev work or visual positioning without GPS\

  • Ground station where the drone can land and automatically be charged/battery swap

Possible Requirements/design specs:

  • Batteries that can be easily swapped without any tools

  • Collapsible motor arms/landing gear

  • Option for various lengths of landing gear

  • Built-in basic fpv camera for navigation

  • Radar/Ultrasonic/Vision-based collision avoidance

  • Add on generator for testing as a hybrid powertrain

Questions and thoughts:

  • Power and data interface. Do we want CAN only, or a simple relay also? We could make a separate simple CAN to relay adapter. Ethernet/PoE could also be interesting to consider.

  • We should set a firm completion date for the first version. I don’t want to spend a ton of time designing a perfect base drone, rather have quick iteration cycles.

  • Do we want the ability for multiple attachments to be used at the same time?

  • Are there multiple different mounting locations for attachments?

  • We could design a pelican case or something similar for easy and secure transportation.

  • We could design a charging case that lets multiple batteries charge in a case for easy quick swapping operations. (See DJI battery station)

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  • Uses one PT3 sized battery
  • Uses size of mad motor 6215 IPE (max 10kg force per motor)
  • 22 inch propeller
  • Steel cage as main body
  • Battery slides in from the side
  • Carbon fiber motor beams
  • Coaxial octocopter will offer more space for collapsible motor beams
  • Enough options to mount something on the main body
  • Connectors should be integrated in the motor beams, like this:
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Following today’s engineering meeting we have decided to set this drone’s MTOW at 25kg/55lbs. Next, we will discuss and set other design requirements.

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